Total Depravity (Part 1): What is Reformed Theology? with R.C. Sproul



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Original sin has marred our nature. We are depraved. But how depraved are we? Are we simply less than perfect? What kind of improvements can we make within ourselves to change sin’s effect? In this message, Dr. Sproul looks at the distinctive doctrine of Reformed theology that is often misunderstood—“Total Depravity.”

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  1. Let me save you some time watching this video. Adam and eve ate the apple and sin came into the world thus putting man in a sinful fallen state. These theologians take a simplistic matter that bible explains so easily then they try to get deep and sound intelligent by adding a ton of unnecessary jargon and titles they then get confused and spend the rest of thier life writing books and reading other books by other theologians that have more jargon and miss the main purpose of the bible which is to go into all the world preach the gospel and win souls and disciple them not build a library then spend your life in that examining works that were written 300 years ago. It 2019 souls are perishing.

  2. SIN FROM OUR YOUTH

    …According to Matthew 18:3 Jesus tells us we’re to become as little children to enter the Kingdom of Heaven:

    MATTHEW 18:3

    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    ****If little children were inherently sinful from birth then why would Jesus be telling us to become like them?

    **Is Jesus telling us we have to become like little sinners to enter the Kingdom of Heaven or is it because children are born innocent and are innocent until they willfully choose to sin and transgress the law?

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    …According to Matthew 19:13,14
    the Kingdom of Heaven is such as LITTLE CHILDREN:

    MATTHEW 19:13,14

    13 Then were there brought unto him LITTLE CHILDREN, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
    14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: FOR OF SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

    **So is the Kingdom of Heaven such as sinful kids or is God using this analogy BECAUSE little children haven’t transgressed the law yet having no knowledge of sin?

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    …According to Psalm 51:5 David was shapen and conceived BY A SINFUL MOTHER.

    PSALM 51:5

    5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

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    Children are NEVER called sinful or wicked in the bible but instead God’s word says we are sinners from our YOUTH which is once we’re aware of good and evil and have the ability to choose the good.

    … According to Genesis 8:21 we are sinners from YOUTH:

    GENESIS 8:21

    21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil FROM HIS YOUTH; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

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    …According to Deuteronomy 1:39 the children entered in to the Promised Land BECAUSE they had no knowledge of good and evil:

    DEUTERONOMY 1:39

    39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your CHILDREN, WHICH IN THAT DAY HAD NO KNOWLEDGE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.

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    …According to Job 13:26 we possess iniquities from our YOUTH:

    JOB 13:26

    26 For thou writest bitter things against me, and makest me to possess the iniquities of my YOUTH.

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    …According to Psalm 25:7 sins are mentioned as from our YOUTH:

    PSALM 25:7

    7 Remember not the sins of my YOUTH, nor my transgressions: according to thy mercy remember thou me for thy goodness' sake, O LORD.

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    …According to Jeremiah 3:25 they had sinned against God from their YOUTH:

    JEREMIAH 3:25

    25 We lie down in our shame, and our confusion covereth us: for we have sinned against the LORD our God, we and our fathers, FROM OUR YOUTH even unto this day, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD our God.

  3. MADE MAN UPRIGHT

    …According to Psalm 139:14 the Psalmist does NOT give a description of a sinful baby:

    PSALM 139:14

    14 I will praise thee; FOR I AM FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

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    … According to Genesis 1:27 man was created in the image of God:

    GENESIS 1:27

    27 SO GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE HIM; male and female created he them.

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    … According to Genesis 9:6 it states even AFTER the fall man is still made in the image of God.

    It wasn’t just Adam and Eve Who were created in God’s image:

    GENESIS 9:6

    6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: FOR IN the IMAGE OF GOD MADE HE MAN.

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    …According to Ecclesiastes 7:29 God has made man UPRIGHT but they themselves have sought out many inventions:

    ECCLESIASTES 7:29

    29 Lo, this only have I found, that GOD HATH MADE MAN UPRIGHT; but THEY HAVE SOUGHT OUT many inventions.

    ****Do we think our systematic is wiser than the wisest man who ever lived who wrote this?

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    …According to James 3:9 in the New Testament we are STILL made in the similitude of God:

    JAMES 3:9

    9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, WHICH ARE MADE AFTER THE SIMILITUDE OF GOD.

  4. …According to 1 JOHN 3:4 sin is specifically defined as a TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW:

    1 JOHN 3:4

    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

    **Sin is NOT “a nature”

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    … According to Romans 5:12 death comes BY SINNING and not by birth:

    ROMANS 5:12

    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and DEATH BY SIN; and so death passed upon all men, FOR THAT ALL HAVE SINNED:

    Sin entered the world and death BY sin.

    This passage couldn’t be more clear.
    Death comes WHEN we sin.

    Nature does not necessitate sin.

    You CAN choose contrary to your nature.

    ADAM AND EVE DID!

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    … According to James 4:17 we are accountable because we do in fact know it’s good.

    If we’re born with a sinful nature then we don’t know it’s bad and therefore can’t be accountable:

    JAMES 4:17

    17 THEREFORE TO HIM THAT KNOWETH TO DO GOOD, AND DOETH IT NOT, TO HIM IT IS SIN.

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    … According to Ezekiel 18:20 it’s the soul that SINS who will die:

    EZEKIEL 18:20

    20 THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    **This fits perfectly with Romans 5:12.

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    …According to Romans 7:9 Paul was alive once and he only died BECAUSE HE SINNED:

    ROMANS 7:9

    9 FOR I WAS ALIVE without the law ONCE: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

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    …According to Romans 6:16 we are by nature that which we yield ourselves to and obey:

    ROMANS 6:16

    16 Know ye not, that to whom YE YIELD YOURSELVES servants to obey, his servants ye are TO WHOM YE OBEY; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

    I’m a “natural” soccer player.

    Did I come out of the womb as a soccer player?

    “By nature” or “natural” simply means that which one is more inclined to do because they’ve been practicing it for a while and so it’s like a “second nature.”

    It’s not from birth but FROM FREELY CHOOSING to do evil over and over so it’s just natural.

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    …According to Romans 2:14 the Gentiles BY NATURE did the things contained in the law so that flies in the face of total inability:

    ROMANS 2:14

    14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, DO BY NATURE the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

    **Again BY NATURE simply means that which they’re inclined to do BECAUSE that’s what they’ve BEEN doing.

    The longer you do something the more NATURAL it becomes and is like your SECOND NATURE.

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    … According to Romans 2:26,27 homosexual sin does NOT come natural to man but is actually CONTRARY to nature.

    Reformers would believe that this comes naturally from our sin nature but that’s the opposite of what the bible says:

    ROMANS 1:26,27

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE:
    27 And likewise also the men, LEAVING THE NATURAL use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

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    …According to Isaiah 59:1-4 it’s our INIQUITIES and not our nature that separates us from God:

    ISAIAH 59:1-4

    1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
    2 But YOUR INIQUITIES have separated between you and your God, and YOUR SINS have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
    3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
    4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; THEY CONCEIVE mischief, and BRING FORTH iniquity.

    **The flesh simply tempts you but it does not make you sin or make you a sinner.

  5. GONE ASTRAY

    …According to Psalm 14:1-3 the FOOL has GONE ASIDE (Not was aside from birth) and has BECOME filthy (Not was filthy from birth):

    PSALM 14:1-3

    1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
    2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
    3 They are all GONE ASIDE, they are all together BECOME filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

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    …According to Isaiah 53:6 it’s clear that we have GONE ASTRAY meaning at some point we WEREN’T astray.

    This verse is also clear that we “HAVE turned”; meaning at some point we WEREN’T turned:

    ISAIAH 53:6

    6 All we like sheep HAVE GONE ASTRAY; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

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    We weren’t born IN Adam we were born OF the SEED or lineage OF Adam.

    ROMANS 9:11

    11 (For the children being not yet born, NEITHER HAVING DONE ANY GOOD OR EVIL, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

    **This disproves the Calvinist meaning of “shapen in iniquity” in Psalm 51:5.

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    …According to Genesis 6:12 we weren’t born corrupt, but we
    CORRUPTED OUR WAY:

    GENESIS 6:12

    12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh HAD CORRUPTED HIS WAY upon the earth.

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    …According to Deuteronomy 32:5
    we weren’t born corrupt but we’ve
    corrupted OURSELVES:

    DEUTERONOMY 32:5

    5 THEY HAVE CORRUPTED THEMSELVES, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.

    **Perversion means doing the EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WERE DESIGNED TO DO.

    **Homosexuals are examples of sexual perversion because BY NATURE we are created male and female:

  6. …According to Matthew 18:3 Jesus tells us we’re to become as little children to enter the Kingdom of Heaven:

    MATTHEW 18:3

    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    ****If little children were inherently sinful from birth then why would Jesus be telling us to become like them???

    **Is Jesus then telling us we have to become like little sinners to enter the Kingdom of Heaven or is it because children are born innocent and are innocent until they willfully choose to sin and transgress the law???

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    …According to Matthew 19:13,14
    the Kingdom of Heaven is such as LITTLE CHILDREN:

    MATTHEW 19:13,14

    13 Then were there brought unto him LITTLE CHILDREN, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
    14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: FOR OF SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

    **So is the Kingdom of Heaven such as sinful kids???

    Or is God using this analogy BECAUSE little children haven’t transgressed the law yet having no knowledge of sin?

    Children are NEVER called sinful or wicked in the bible but instead God’s word says we are sinners from our YOUTH which is once we’re aware of good and evil and have the ability to choose the good.

    … According to Genesis 8:21 we are sinners from YOUTH:

    GENESIS 8:21

    21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil FROM HIS YOUTH; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

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    …According to Deuteronomy 1:39 the children entered in to the Promised Land BECAUSE they had no knowledge of good and evil:

    DEUTERONOMY 1:39

    39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your CHILDREN, WHICH IN THAT DAY HAD NO KNOWLEDGE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.

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    …According to Job 13:26 we possess iniquities from our YOUTH:

    JOB 13:26

    26 For thou writest bitter things against me, and makest me to possess the iniquities of my YOUTH.

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    …According to Psalm 25:7 sins are mentioned as from our YOUTH:

    PSALM 25:7

    7 Remember not the sins of my YOUTH, nor my transgressions: according to thy mercy remember thou me for thy goodness' sake, O LORD.

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    …According to Jeremiah 3:25 they had sinned against God from their YOUTH:

    JEREMIAH 3:25

    25 We lie down in our shame, and our confusion covereth us: for we have sinned against the LORD our God, we and our fathers, FROM OUR YOUTH even unto this day, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD our God.

  7. Dead is NEVER SHOWN in the scriptures to mean MORAL INABILITY to respond to God’s truth.

    Dead means SPIRITUALLY SEPARATED from the presence of God due to sin and the only way to get into His presence is through Christ.

    *If we were actually dead as reformers portray then we wouldn’t even be able to sin!*

    Scripture supports a totally depraved man that is spiritually separated from God and obviously unable to save Himself.

    This does NOT mean man is totally incapable of responding to Him.

    Dead does not relate to your “ability” but to your RELATIONSHIP.

    …According to John 5:24 a dead man is able to hear and believe and pass from death to life:

    JOHN 5:24-29

    24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT HEARETH MY WORD, AND BELIEVETH on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but IS PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.
    25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and NOW IS, when THE DEAD SHALL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD: AND THEY THAT HEAR SHALL LIVE.
    26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
    27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
    28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

    Total MORAL depravity NOT inability

    … According to John 5:40 Jesus says, “Ye will not” and He doesn’t say “Ye are not able to,”

    JOHN 5:40

    40 And YE WILL NOT COME TO ME, THAT YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE.

    JOHN 6:35

    35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: HE THAT COMETH TO ME shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

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    Mankind has total moral depravity, completely separated from God Spiritually and is totally lost and helpless to save himself and would remain in his fallen state IF left on his own unless God took the first step and initiated the opportunity to be saved.

    THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE’RE NOT ON OUR OWN ANYMORE!

    God has taken the DIVINE INITIATIVE!

    He sent HIS SON.

    He sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT.

    He gave us HIS WORD.

    He speaks to us through HIS CREATION.

    What more do you want?

    What more do you need?

    Was God’s plan not sufficient enough?

    Was it not perfect?

    Is Christ not sufficient enough?

    Is God’s word not sufficient enough?

    Is all of creation not sufficient enough?

    Is everything that God’s done in taking the DIVINE INITIATIVE and first step towards us not compelling or persuasive enough that He STILL has to effectually make us believe or else none would come to Him?

    Do you not believe the Holy Spirit is doing His job properly???

    JOHN 16:7-9

    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
    8 And when he is come, HE WILL REPROVE THE WORLD OF SIN, AND OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND OF JUDGMENT:
    9 OF SIN, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME;

    …God HAS in fact took that first step towards us in an effort to reconcile mankind back to Himself.

    While we were yet sinners wanting nothing to do with God and His ways He chose to reach out to us.

    He chose to reach out to the world while we spat on His face, mocked and shouted crucify Him.

    He’s done all this.

    It’s finished.

  8. Totality denotes an absolute term, it means 100% completeness.The dictionary defines TOTALLY as=completely; absolutely.Johnny Calvin taught that Total Depravity =100% inability to approach God because of the sinner's 100% Total Depraved Spiritual State(SPIRITUALLY DEAD) .If you are dead you CAN NOT BE HALF DEAD OR HALF RESURRECTED therefore TOTAL DEPRAVITY IS 100% DEPRAVED. It is like been pregnant were Pregnancy occurs when an egg is fertilized by a sperm,  YOU CAN NOT GET ALMOST PREGNANT OR HALF PREGNANT, EITHER YOU ARE 100% PREGNANT OR YOU ARE NOT PREGNANT AT ALL.

    To Johnny Calvin A TOTALLY DEPRAVED SINNER is deaf unless the Holy Spirit regenerate him 1st and then his ears will be opened!.The only problem with that philosophical premise is that poor Johnny forgot about OUR BROTHER AND SISTER IN CHRIST Cornelius and Lydia. In both cases God heard their prayers and communicated with them without THEM been first regenerated , KIND OF ODD FOR GOD TO HEAR THE PRAYERS OF 2 UN-REGENERATED/ TOTALLY DEPRAVED DEAF AND MUTE SINNERS, don't you think?.Total Depravity is 100% Depraved, or are there people who are NOT TOTALLY DEPRAVED but only 50-60-70% DEPRAVED?.

    If that is the case , like in Cornelius case in which he was not IN Christ nor was he saved and yet he could communicate with God through prayer as easily as a NEW BORN SAVED CHRISTIAN can. THEN LOGIC DICTATES THAT IN CORNELIUS CASE IT IS NOT TOTAL DEPRAVITY BUT A PARTIAL DEPRAVITY .TO JOHNNY CALVIN DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE CLASSIFIED ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT STAGES OF DEPRAVITY. ONE IS TOTALLY DEPRAVED AND THE OTHER (Cornelius/Lydia) IS PARTIALLY DEPRAVED.Well Johnny Calvin, THE BIBLE CERTAINLY DOES NOT BACK YOUR PHILOSOPHICAL VIEW OF DEPRAVITY AS EITHER BEEN TOTAL OR PARTIAL DEPRAVITY.

    THE WORD OF GOD JUST SAYS DEPRAVED AND NOTHING ELSE , NOT TOTALLY DEPRAVED OR PARTIALLY DEPRAVED AS JOHNNY CLAIMS.If Cornelius was TOTALLY DEPRAVED (100% TOTALLY DEPRAVED) AND NOT PARTIALLY DEPRAVED he could NOT have ever been able to communicate with Jehovah God because of his inability to do so because of his Spiritual DEAD state as Johnny claims.DO DEAD (100% DEAD AND STIFF AS A LOG) CAN COMMUNICATE VERBALLY WITH JEHOVAH GOD AND RESPOND TO GOD AS WELL?, at least that is what looney Johnny thinks concerning Cornelius case (that is if johnny wants to be consistent and apply TOTAL DEPRAVITY AND SPIRITUAL DEATH TO CORNELIUS AS TULIP DEMANDS).Either Johnny is consistent with his beloved TULIP and classifies Cornelius as DEAD SPIRITUALLY or Cornelius WAS NOT DEAD SPIRITUALLY BUT PARTIALLY REGENERATED which will bring a bunch of contradictory issues concerning SOTERIOLOGY.Johnny, do you really wish to take that route?.

    If Johnny Calvin would claim that Christ's sheep LISTEN to His voice and follow Him then that OBVIOUSLY would imply that there is NO need of believing the Gospel and getting saved for a TOTALLY DEPRAVED UN-REGENERATED sinner to be ABLE to talk to God (since the TOTALLY DEPRAVED sinner is a sheep of Christ he has FULL access to Jehovah God in prayer without BEEN REGENERATED FIRST!.) and for Jehovah God to answer his prayers !!!.

    Mmmm let see if I understand you correctly Johnny, so a TOTALLY DEPRAVED UN-REGENERATED sinner and a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN both have COMPLETE access through prayer to God's Kingdom and communicate with Jehovah God FREELY (just like our brother in Christ Cornelius did before been saved and born again of The Spirit!) anytime and any where?, mmmm very interesting to say the least!.

    Should we preach that people DON'T really need to believe the Gospel and repent because, since there is a CHANCE that they could be one of Christ sheep , Jehovah God will ALWAYS listen to their prayer regardless of their spiritual state (totally depraved as Johnny claims that Cornelius was!) and BLESS them as well?.

    Mmmmm, so that means that there is NO NEED of Jesus (an UN-GENERATED TOTALLY DEPRAVED sinner DON'T need to be IN Christ for his prayers to be answered) to be an intermediary between God The Father and men for Jesus Christ to be able to listen to TOTALLY DEPRAVED sinners and take their prayers to the Father!!!

    So if a non believer TOTALLY DEPRAVED sinner , who you are preaching to, claims that he prays to Jehovah God just as you do and God listen to his prayers and answers them too, are we to believe him because he might be ONE of Christ sheep and he hears the Pastor voice just like Cornelius did?.Are we to be so dumb, naive and gullible to believe that a sheep can hear the Pastor's voice when that sheep is NOT part of the Pastor's flock (he is NOT IN Christ )?.NOPE we can not believe in Johnny Calvin's moronic "theology" and Calvinism TULIP heresy!!!.

    Oh Johnny you silly heretic, to be a sheep and LISTEN to the PASTOR'S voice YOU FIRST MUST be IN Christ for Christ to be YOUR PASTOR!!!.When were you IN Christ?, surely it was NOT before the death and resurrection of the PASTOR HIMSELF which IS the condition to be met/needed to be IN Christ!!!.

    There are ONLY one solution to this dilemma and the Biblical solution is, that Jehovah God is correct in the FACT that we ALL are depraved (NOT TOTALLY depraved as Johnny claims) sinners in a desperate need of a SAVIOR to redeem us and that good 'ol looney Johnny Calvin is lying through his teeth!!!!.

    I'll stop here because I don't want to embarrassed and humiliate our buddy Johnny Calvin any further!.You see the mess you get into Johnny when you try to introduce agnostic and philosophical concepts into the WORD of Jehovah God, the WORD IS ALIVE AND WILL STRIKE YOU BACK!.

  9. Why I Reject-
    TOTAL DEPRAVITY

    I often see or hear a comment;
    “Oh how could anyone not see Total Depravity in Scripture??” (Of course they are most likely of the reformed persuasion, or confused as we will cover as well)

    When Total Depravity is rejected it is NOT Primarily rejected as a condition and suggesting there is no flaw within us, but as an all encompassing theological point with aspects that are contrary to they beliefs of many that innocently but ignorantly utilize the term.

    FUNNY THING IS…
    Read how most Calvinist describe the “Five Points” of their TULIP Theology and when they explain Total Depravity you see “but this does not mean man is as bad as he COULD be”.
    So even Calvinist DON’T believe Depravity is TOTAL.

    Certainly man is damaged from the fall.
    God creates an innocent Spirit but unfortunately we are placed in a flawed mortal shell. We are not able to withstand Satan and soon (unless we can’t comprehend) we will sin.
    The degrees of sinful living beyond that point varies with the individual.
    You may have a lost neighbor that acts like Mr. Rogers on one side and on the other side of you lives the vilest of criminals.

    Yet-
    BOTH can have their Spiritually blinded eyes opened by the gospel.
    BOTH can be convicted by the Spirit.
    BOTH can believe.
    And BOTH CAN be saved.

    TOTAL DEPRAVITY says NEITHER can and will never be saved. Therefore God must Regenerate this sinner that is incapable of believing and then they can, must, and will “Believe”.

    That is of course (according to the other pedals on the TULIP) IF you were fortunate enough to have been chosen for Heaven and NOT Hell, before they world was formed.

    So Yes,
    I REJECT TOTAL DEPRAVITY.

    Non Calvinists individuals and churches should not play with such poisonous terminology yet some do.
    They sometimes mean it in a much more restrictive and limited way. So simply say what you believe and leave this term to the Calvinist that made it.
    Don’t false advertise.
    Don’t promote a man made theology.
    Even if your grandparents and Sunday School teachers used this phrase drop it from your vocabulary.
    You can be exposing this to many that are not aware of it’s full meaning and planting credibility to it in their mind.
    Drop this from your statements and teaching.

    Teach the Bible.

  10. You see sin is like a CANCER that contaminates its host and kills him (spiritual death), WE ARE ALL CONTAMINATED WITH THIS CANCER CALLED SIN.ARE YOU TO SAY THAT JEHOVAH GOD HAVE THE CURE (JESUS CHRIST) FOR THIS CANCER CALLED SIN AND HE CHOSE SOME TO GIVE THE CURE TO AND THE OTHERS, WHO SUFFER FROM THE SAME CANCER, GOD JUST IGNORE THEIR CONDITION AND JUST ALLOW THEM TO SUFFER WITHOUT A CURE?.That is not my Jehovah God nor is the Gospel by which I was saved and SET FREE from the CANCER OF SIN BY JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    You see dear Calvinists it is NOT A MATTER OF JEHOVAH GOD BEEN FAIR OR NOT NOR IS IT ABOUT GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY.IT IS A MATTER OF JEHOVAH GOD'S CHARACTER AND ABOUT HIS MERCIFUL/LOVE DRIVEN DISPOSITION.DEAR CALVINISTS GOD CAN NOT DENY HIMSELF TO PLEASE YOU AND JOHNNY CALVIN!.

  11. Thanks for the video!

    Is there a place where I can watch every episode from this show online? I used to watch it on T.V., but I no longer have T.V., and they seem to be showing people other than R.C. anyway.

  12. If Cain was "totally depraved" why did God give him a choice? Did Cain have the same choice as Abel? Total depravity as the Calvinist define it is not biblical. Then the Calvinist have to go and add words to fit their religion. Like irresistible Grace which is not found in scripture.

  13. Calvin was Not Godly but religious, he had people killed, like Rabbi Saul, before his salvation!
    God is Sovereign & in total control and orderly. He has given people choice from a fallen situation,
    In fact The Hebrew Scriptures Teach That God says Adam and Eve became like God after The Fall, knowing Good & Evil. The choice is complete! Not one sided!
    Cain had a choice to overcome sin!?

    The epistles teach that people can walk away! Again choice! After choosing God’s salvation!
    God is Good and He gives sinners His Mercy & Grace

    Calvin’s god is Not The Eternal Creator because The Scriptures Teach That God takes No pleasure in the loss of anyone and He desires All would be Saved!!!
    So Calvin’s god is a failure!!! This proves the error of Calvinism!

  14. 11:19 is a misinterpretation of Psalm 51:5. If you take that Psalm in context with Leviticus 12, then it becomes clear that it is the mother that is unclean by giving birth because of blood shed, and she must bring a sin offering to the priest once her 40 or 80 days of purification is complete.

    The tradition of Original Sin is a false doctrine supported only by taking verses out of context.

    The phrase "we aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners" is rubbish.

    Ezekiel 18 debunks the tradition of Original Sin. Total Depravity is a demonic doctrine teaching that the most holy babies are spiritually dead is a lie.

  15. The Reformed view is that even after a Christian is regenerated, he still is powerless over some sin. But as he becomes more and more sanctified, he gains more and more power over sin. But this side of eternity, he will always have SOME sin in his life, though ever decreasing. Though he always struggles with sin, once saved is always saved. Election is UNCONDITIONAL. The Wesleyan view is that upon regeneration, man is INSTANTLY CAPABLE of resisting all sin. This is called INSTANT SANCTIFICATION or SINLESS PERFECTION or Semi-Pelagianism. Now, the believer must keep perfect, because if he falls off he loses his justification and must get saved again. It's perfect or damned. A salvation completely CONDITIONED on the man's performance.

  16. A lot of Pelagians commenting. People think that sinners have power over sin apart from Christ. Know that Arminius didn't even hold this Humanistic view. Arminians teach that God FIRST unilaterally acts on a powerless sinner. THEN he has power to choose Christ or reject Him. Not Catholics, not Wesleyans, nor any other Arminian church teach that a sinner apart from Christ has moral power to resist sin. If you believe that an unsaved person has the ability to resist sin, you're a Pelagian.

  17. "Total" is in reaction to the Pelagian view that man still possessed a resilient will that had not been morally corrupted. Pelagian taught that all of man was morally corrupted EXCEPT his will. His will could still choose to obey God's law and thus man was CAPABLE of not sinning. The Christian view is that man is POWERLESS over sin and that his will is a SLAVE to sin. The will was not excepted from the moral corruption, thus the Reformers stressed TOTAL moral depravity, with no exceptions. This doesn't mean total annihilation of existence, total loss of God's image, total loss of reason, total loss of moral knowledge of right and wrong. It meant that man, the whole man, will included, desired what was wrong and had no power WITHIN HIMSELF (apart from Christ) to resist it . . . because he loved it.

  18. Please. Teach what you know. You explained why you do not except RC Sprouls explanation. Explain yours.
    I say to myself you not only cannot but you will not. This is Bilical Theology at its best. I hope you make the right decision for yourself. RC makes perfect sense.

  19. Ezekiel 33:11– 19
    Hebrews 3:12
    Acts 7:51
    2 Chronicles 16:9
    Acts 17:11-12
    Acts 17:24-31
    John 1:29
    1John 2:1-6
    1Peter 3:12
    1 Timothy 1:13
    John 3:16,17
    Exodus 10:3
    Jeremiah 29:13
    Joshua 24:15
    1 John 5:19
    Hebrews 4:7
    Genesis 4:7
    Romans 10:21
    Isaiah 45:22
    I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 2 Timothy 4:7
    Titus 2:11
    11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 
    Isaiah 45;22
    Turn to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.
    Dead in sin = My son who was dead
    Ephesians 2:5. = Luke 15:10-24
    John 6:39,40

  20. What a false and dangerous belief system! Preaching another gospel to the Gospel of Christ!

    Why did Jesus say repent OR perish if there no choice on our part? Jesus was giving them a choice – they could repent of their sins or perish because of their sins.

    How can Jesus tell someone to repent or perish if God already predestined their choice in the matter? What’s the point of preaching the Gospel to EVERY creature if Calvinism teaches that the Gospel is not for everyone and Jesus didn’t die for ALL? Why does God command ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE to repent if He didn’t give them a choice to repent?

    Anyone who believes this false doctrine needs to repent and believe the truth Gospel !

  21. Can someone please tell me at what point in time did mankind become totally depraved? Were Cain and Abel totally depraved? If so why does God talk to Cain as if Cain has a free will and can make a choice to do right or wrong. Genesis 6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou angry {wroth}? And why is thy countenance fallen? 7If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. Here we have Cain, a totally depraved man, and God is giving him a choice between doing right or doing wrong. Now to the reformed theologians God is just playing a game with Cain because he knows Cain really doesn't have the ability to choose. So the reformed theologians are making God a liar. Because God is saying that Cain can make a choice between right or wrong, when in reality Cain cannot choose on his own. All throughout the Bible God gives people choices to make. Now if we are incapable of really making a choice of our own will, than this again makes God a liar. To me this is a dangerous and destructive doctrine by proud arrogant theologians who think they have God figured out. But they're a bunch of fools.

  22. We are all born spitualy dead, we absolutely cannot understand spitual thing. We are hustile towards God , and anything that reminds us of God, until God moves in our Hearts, and change our intent, our thinking, as we think, we live.

  23. We are all born dead sinners unless we are made alive by God by believing and trusting in Jesus and His sacrificial death on our behalf. Even our belief and faith in Him is God's work, not ours. Romans 8:29-30 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.

  24. Total Depravity flows from the Augustinian view of Original Sin. Without Augustine you would not have a lot of the doctrines of the Reformation. The central Problem surrounding the Reformation starts with the doctrine of sin. That is why I don't believe Reformed theology. It seems to me that the Reformed Faith is an echo chamber to itself. It is simply nothing more than an Augustinian fan fest.

    Here is an alternative view to the Augustinian view of Original Sin. Once you get rid of this doctrine then you will understand the nature of sin.

    The Idea of Original Sin came from Augustine. No one before him who wrote in the early church used the term Original Sin nor do you find any reference to the idea of imputed guilt to the whole human race in their writings. The early church saw death as the problem or disease, not sin. The text that Augustine used to justify his doctrine of Original Sin was Romans 5:12. Augustine formulated that Romans 5:12 taught that we all sinned "in" Adam. All of western Christianity is built on this one idea that we all sinned "in" Adam. The church before Augustine taught that Romans 5:12 should be interpreted that we sinned "because" Adam sinned. The reason they maintained this was because of the two verses that follow Romans 5:12.

    From Romans 5:13-14 It seems strange that Augustine formulated a doctrine that implies Imputed guilt to the whole human race. In these verses Paul the Apostle says that all the people who lived from Adam to Moses were struggling with sin. However, that sin and guilt was NOT imputed or reckoned to them since the Torah had not been given. How can this be? Did Augustine read vs 13 and 14? It seems he missed the point of these verses. If Augustine did read vs 13 &14 how could he interpret vs 12 to mean that all men universally have guilt accounted to them on the basis of Adams sin? Romans 5:13 &14 teach the very opposite of what Augustine taught in vs 12. But in verse 14 Paul says, "Yet death exercised dominion from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who is a type of the one who was to come". The people who lived from Adam to Moses the overriding emphasis is on the fact that these people were under the dominion of death. They were under the mortality that Adams sin had brought upon them. "Sin reigned through death." (Romans 5:21). It is not imputed guilt in verses 13 &14 that men receive from Adam. It is the curse and slavery of death.

    The following observations can be made here. Paul defines death as the problem that ruled over these men who lived from Adam to Moses. They had no imputed guilt. The Torah had not been given yet. Also this passage Identifies Adam as a Type of the one who is to come. This is universally interpreted to mean that Adam was a TYPE of Christ, The one who is to come or the second Adam. The next observation here is that Adam is a TYPE who sets up a PATTERN of the one who is to come.

    Adam is set apart here from other men in three ways. He was the first man. Secondly, He was the first man to sin. Thirdly his first sin brought other men after him under the dominion of death. They had no guilt reckoned to them. This pattern is confirmed by Paul the Apostle in 1 Corinthians 15:21 “For since death came through a human being, the resurrection of the dead has also come through a human being”; Christ who is the second Adam. The fulfillment of the pattern between the first and second Adam here is obvious. Adams sin brings death. Christ brings life.

    The early church believed that sin comes from the curse and slavery of death. For Adam the wages of sin was death. Adams first sin brought death into creation, but for us the "sting of death is sin" 1 Cor 15:56. This is the two dimensional aspect of sin. So we sin because the condition of creation was cursed by the first sin of Adam. This is why the Bible teaches " that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time". Romans 8:21,22. Our nature, teaches Cyril of Alexandria, became "diseased…through the sin of one". It is not guilt that is passed on, for the church fathers; it is a condition, a disease". The creation itself has been warped now that death is here, and since we are part of creation our relation to it is not the same. We are not in Eden any longer.

    So the early church taught that Adams and Eve were guilty for their own sins. We in turn are guilty for ours. The story of Adam and Eve is the story of every man and woman.

    This early church view of sin is not taught in the western churches today. It is because of the doctrines of Original Sin that the western churches teach doctrines that have been invented such as forensic Justification and Penal Substitutionary Atonement. The cross has become about God punishing the Son instead of God in Jesus Christ conquering death, sin and Satan. Hebrews 2:14,15 says, "Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death". Here we see the purpose of Christ death, He was in fact bringing justice to our oppressor Satan himself. Satan was more than a tempter. Satan had brought mankind under the power and slavery of death thus holding that power over us. Christ by defeating death. defeats sin providing forgiveness of sins. Death, sin and Satan as the unholy trinity were defeated. ,Thus salvation is provided for all who believe. The Augustinian view of Original Sin is false doctrine.

  25. The doctrine of "total depravity" or "total inability" is false. Scripture is clear that the most vile and wicked can still respond and humble themselves before God. Here are 2 Biblical examples:

    In the OT, King Ahab was the king of Samaria was more evil and Scripture says there was no one like him when it came to evil – 1 Kings 21:25

    1 Kings 21:25-26 – 25 (There was never anyone like Ahab, who sold himself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, urged on by Jezebel his wife. 26 He behaved in the VILEST MANNER by going after idols, like the Amorites the Lord drove out before Israel.)

    King Ahab was persuaded by his wife Jezebel to kill Naboth so he could acquire his vineyard in 1 Kings 21. Jezebel set up a conspiracy to have Naboth killed so that Ahab could acquire the vineyard which Naboth refused to sell to Ahab. God then declared disaster on Ahab in 1 Kings21:19, and 1 Kings 21:21 for the murder of Naboth.

     It says in 1 Kings 21:27-29 – 27 When Ahab heard these words, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and fasted. He lay in sackcloth and went around MEEKLY.

    28 Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite: 29 “Have you noticed how Ahab HAS HUMBLED HIMSELF BEFORE ME? Because HE HAS HUMBLED HIMSELF, I will not bring this disaster in his day, but I will bring it on his house in the days of his son.”

    Here is clearly a man who is depraved and behaved in the vilest manner, but he HUMBLED himself before the Lord. It is also clear that Ahab's humbling himself before God was a genuine act because God responded to it by postponing the disaster that He was going to bring upon him. God brought it about later in 1 Kings 22:34-38.

    King Manasseh of Judah in 2 Chronicles 33 was very evil. He erected altars to
    the Baals, made Asherah Poles, bowed down to the starry hosts and worshiped
    them. He sacrificed his sons in the fire, and practiced sorcery, divination, witchcraft
    and consulted with mediums and spiritists. As a result of Manasseh's grievous sins,
    God gave him and his people into the hands of the Assyrian army commanders.

    In 2 Chronicles 33:12-13, Manasseh came to his senses and sought and HUMBLED
    himself greatly before God. Manasseh's seeking and humbling were genuine because 
    God responded to it as indicated in 33:13 and God brought him back to Jerusalem and 
    to his kingdom. Scripture then says that "Manasseh" knew that the Lord is God."

    This is another account in addition to the account of King Ahab who HUMBLED him
    self greatly before God which shows that an utterly depraved person can still seek
    after God. These 2 accounts of King Manasseh and King Ahab refutes Calvinism's 
    false doctrine of "total depravity" or "total inability".

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