The Arrogance of Religious Thought with Dr Bill Zingrone

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Secular Discussion Group – Bill Zingrone, who gave us an amazing talk regarding human development, will discuss his latest book “The Arrogance of Religious Thought”

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35 thoughts on “The Arrogance of Religious Thought with Dr Bill Zingrone

  1. Even though I agree that religious thought is arrogant myth, God still exists for many people. We only have to explore what it is that gives us life and consciousness. There is more to this argument than comes from the sometimes halfwit, logical mind that is ego centered. Let's not forget there is also the holistic, symbolic mind that is heart centered. "Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water." Replace the label "God" with "Love" and we have a positive, inclusive paradigm. Or label God as Prana, Chi, life force, consciousness, the Universe, the Field, the ground substance, etc. It really doesn't matter, because all those labels name the same thing.

  2. People are religious because they actually believe God exists, because of evidence and philisofical arguments, historical figures etc. To get rid of arrogant religious arguments and people, have a convincing argument that God does not exist. Arrogant people exist within all worldviews .

  3. More people on the camera team than in the audience. This dude needs could benefit from a vegetarian diet and less Big Macs or he isn't long for this world.

    And Catholics AREN'T real Christians! They're cultists. They worship Mary and the Saints. Not that you would know that, though. Mormons aren't real Christians, either.

    Romans 1 doesn't say homosexuals should die, he said "Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

    It could be death, it could be AIDS, it could be a lot of consequences of homosexuality.

    Slavery is the third world is more prevalent today than it has ever been …. more research is needed by your good self

  5. Condoms do help spread AIDS, you idiot. Learn something about human nature. Using condoms gives people a false sense of security; they do things they wouldn't do if they didn't have access to them. The same is true of crash helmets and seat belts; people have a false sense of security so ride or drive faster.

  6. Chimps and dogs are fundamentally the same, they cannot discover the universe or have any insight into existence of God or not. Humans have an intuition that can't be explained by just more the having more intelligence than animals.

  7. Sorry your rising waters due to global warming is incorrect, the oceans so far has only raised 1 centimeter… In order to get 3 meters of rise, if I remember correctly, both poles and Greenland would need to be ice free. Coastal and island flooding is usually due to sublimation. Florida is sits on a huge piece of limestone which is basically like a sponge. It wears out, that is why you see sinkholes there. And with continental drift, the trailing edge starts dropping into the ocean

  8. Who the furk would want to live in America especially these days? Americans for the most part are like Europeans before WW2! I´ve been living in Spain for 20 years and no one has ever brought up religion to me but in the US it was a weekly thing!

  9. Just keep educating Christians; they usually only know an abridged sugar-coated version of their religion. It's not so much what you learn in Church but more what they leave out. What I've only learnt recently that much that Jesus apparently says on the Cross is drawn word for word from the Old Testament (Apologists call this prophecy but unfortunately Matthew in particular like a school boy carelessly copying homework makes mistakes).

  10. On Hitler who, supposedly, was an Atheist, and on the pre-WW2 Germans (mostly christians) who elected him into power:

    At least 95% of Germans were practising christians before, during, and well after WW2… They would never elect an Atheist into power, for they hated and despised Atheists as much as contemporary evangelical americans do. And would they elect an Atheist into power? 😮

    Hitler was clearly a christian and I quote:

    "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise." "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will" "For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’"

    – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.

    Martin Luther was most likely the inspirational source for Hitlers' anti-semitism:

    Truly, Hitler was one of the most depraved leaders of the last century. And most other allied leaders outside Germany knew [in the end] what he was planning [to do], and they allowed the Holocaust to happen: because they too were christians (or muslims) and thus, more or less, anti-semites.

    Of course, the First Cause of anyones anti-semitism is the bible (or the qur'an) itself:

    1 Thessalonians 2;13-16 New International Version (NIV):

    13 And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe. 14 For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone 16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.


    The Jews are the Eternal Murderers [they should be eternally blamed for the murder] of jesus christ:

    Matthew 27;24-26 English Standard Version (ESV):

    'Pilate Delivers Jesus to Be Crucified'

    24 So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves.” 25 And all the people [jews] answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released for them Barabbas, and having scourged Jesus, delivered him to be crucified.


    It isn't difficult to create a hateful doctrine based on such texts, because you need only little. Causing great suffering:

  11. He was right about gay marriage. I was one of the first gay libbers. Gay Marriage was unthinkable. We focussed on stopping the Christians from murdering us, and being able to find accommodation and jobs.

  12. Good video, content is quite insightful that would hold a candle to the others in the channel; my only small, small gripe: Watch your background when placing your video camera. The technical staff moving in the background of the speaker is really distracting. Even when it's one guy sitting while staring at his screen, it's enough to pull your eyeballs and derail your attention.

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