Gay Clergy The Falling Away



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A look into the infiltration of the Church and the beginning of the Falling Away that must take place before the Rapture!

oh look at the condition of your mind antiquated ideas bungling false concepts superstitions confusion to think straight we'll have to clean house we stand against the spirit of hatred judgment and discrimination which creates division instead of unity the United Methodist Church isn't unified on having members of the LGBTQ community serve in leadership roles which has created division in the church and could cause a split representatives of the church met in st. Louis many of them agreed to more strongly enforce a rule to restrict gay people from preaching behind the pulpit for a denomination that prides itself on open hearts and open minds some clergy and members say they are willing to break away and truly follow their faith Denver 7s Lance Hernandez explains well with seven million members the United Methodist Church is the second largest Protestant denomination in the u.s. it has 13 million members worldwide and while the church in the western US is more accepting of gay clergy and same-sex marriage that is not the case in other parts of the world if this goes in the strictest form yes there could be charges brought against anyone who did a same-sex marriage if you are gay and out you could be removed Reverend Tom wolf president of the I love School of Theology says there's growing concern that a decision to enforce divisive bans on same-sex marriage an ordination of gay clergy will lead to defections from the church the openly gay bishop of UMC's Mountain Sky Conference which includes Colorado says what many people heard from the vote in st. Louis is that they are not wanted without me I asked Bishop Karen Oliveto if the decision will affect her bishops from other continents want the bans against same-sex marriage and LGBT ordination enforced to suggest that if you support some other plan it will be limited actions will be limited to America that is a delusion I would like to say I was surprised but I wasn't pastor Sharon Lang Feld of Christ Church United Methodist says theirs is a welcoming Church with no plans to change this church will be this it was yesterday in the day before she says what's different is that there may be a need for additional love and support for people harmed by the decision now the tougher enforcement of the bans on same-sex marriage and LGBT ordination are not expected to take effect until January 1st of 2020 the church's court is expected to weigh in before then so there could be some changes we will keep you updated and all right we know you will thank you we're shocking what was also disheartening that's the reaction from members of Casey's Center for inclusion members of the LGBTQ group were surprised by Tuesday's vote by the United Methodist Church to keep its ban on same-sex marriage and gay clergy members to have the church turn around and vote in a manner that doesn't give them an avenue to serve their community pastor Adam Hamilton of the United Methodist Church of the Resurrection was quick to speak out about the vote he took to social media to voice his concerns Church the resurrection has not changed we are a place that's welcoming for everybody Hamilton says because of this vote the church and his congregation now have to look at their options moving forward the policy is going to continue to be hurtful to people and to say that our again LGBTQ or gay and lesbian friends are less than then I think there's a there's a groundswell of support for people saying then that is no longer the United Methodist Church that we knew and loved many have said the church could splinter into two groups pastor Hamilton says I don't want to do that I don't want to see us divide the church but I think there's a lot of people saying if if we're going backwards then most of us don't want to go backwards we want to go forwards pastor Hamilton said he has several members of the church that are part of the LGBTQ community and he said as long as he's a pastor here they have a place to call home Jordan batts 41 Action News new tonight an emotional potentially historic debate is underway over the future of the United Methodist Church hundreds of church delegates from around the world and Columbus voted to maintain the churches ban on gay marriage and LGBT clergy 10 TV's Glen McIntyre spoke with two local church members watching this debate unfold they are gathered in st. Louis come Holy Spirit come more than 860 delegates from around the globe and what they decide some say could lead to a historic split in the United Methodist Church the debate is between two plans the one church plan would lift the church's ban on same-sex marriage and LGBT clergy it would also remove language from the church's law book that says homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching in votes yesterday and today delegates defeated that plan today they are voting on the traditional plan which would keep the ban and require stricter and more consistent enforcement it may be easy for on lookers to believe the churches void of voices like ours let me assure you this is not true there are thousands of us in your local churches fiercely committed to a traditional definition of marriage one man and one woman the traditional plan is now only a traditional plan bar the biblical plan that ensures that God's Word remain foundational to the life and growth of the United Methodist Church pastor Angie Cox and Justin Nelson Nowakowski for a broad street United Methodist Church in Columbus are attending the conference in support of the one Church plan they were devastated by its rejection I remember you know years ago and the Pride Parade someone said gee do you really think God loves me and and of course I was able to say yes you know absolutely God loves you and and the two needs I think we have to take time to focus and reflect on the fact that we are but when we go back home we envision as the United Methodist Church I send a message to them that that as a body we may not think that I think with the way that we are witnessing the United Methodist Church I you know I think we're going to see some repercussions from that that people are going to begin to feel that they cannot be in a United Methodist Church and be viewed as a child of God they will feel that they cannot be whole within our denomination and that is truly heartbreaking Glen McIntyre 10 TV news the world's major religions have various stances on same-sex marriage the Pew Research Center says these churches allow gay marriage they include the Episcopal Church Presbyterian Church and the United Church of Christ these churches prohibit gay marriage the Roman Catholic Church Islam and the National Baptist Convention and these churches have no clear position Buddhism and Hinduism a church in conflict after months of debate and it's worldwide conference the United Methodist Church has rejected the inclusion of openly gay clergy and same-sex marriage 10news reporter Liz Crawford talked to a local Tampa Bay pastor who is against this decision it's got to be a tough one for him yeah well Reverend Andy Oliver is committed to inclusion he just got back to st. Petersburg this morning after spending the week in st. Louis at the UMC conference and despite the new decision Reverend Andy is determined to practice what he preaches a prayer group gathered Wednesday morning at Allendale Methodist Church in st. Petersburg on this day they prayed for the state of their church one that is divided people were crying people were yelling people were chanting I was a part of the group that was was yelling do no harm Reverend Andy Oliver is just back from the UMC conference he explains some of the fallout to the prayer group although Reverend Andy thinks the decision harms the LGBTQ community he believes some good will come out of the vote the delegates there saw the worst of a major part of the church and many people who had remained silent in the past have been moved to a place of advocacy and can you can clearly say that this this isn't right here at Allendale UMC Reverend Andy says he will continue to minister to LGBTQ people God's kingdom Beloved Community doesn't look like a bunch of white straight old people and as long as he can help it neither will Reverend Andy's congregation I know for me and for my people they'll have to they'll have to peel us out of our own sanctuary we're not leaving we're not going anywhere the US Supreme Court engraved this right in concrete when it ruled same-sex marriage is constitutional the history of the campaign for marriage equality goes back to 1970 when two male University of Minnesota students applied for a marriage license and were denied because they were both men since then the law and American public opinion have revolutionized fairly quickly but despite this the United Methodist Church has not progressed in this critical regard the church remains officially opposed to homosexuality same-sex marriage and self-avowed gay pastors it's official rule book The Book of Discipline states the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching but not all United Methodist congregations agree with the church's view on this issue the fight on this issue is testing the faith more than ever and dividing a United Methodist Church Capital pride is an annual event in Washington DC celebrating the gay lesbian bisexual transgender and questioning communities it brings together national and local LGBTQ organizations as well as supporters from politicians to corporate chieftains and church groups one church supporting the LGBT community is Washington dc-based foundry United Methodist Church founded in 1814 foundry has a long history of being open and welcoming to the LGBTQ community pastor ginger is head pastor at foundry pastor ginger the Book of Discipline says homosexuality as a sin how do you deal with that being a part of the UMC I'm definitely part of the United Methodist Church and from the day that I was ordained in which I said that I would support the doctrine of the church I knew that I would be working to change what the Book of Discipline says about homosexuality I think the Book of Discipline is counter to the Word of God that we find in Scripture so the way I deal with the Book of Discipline is to fight it pastor ginger and the foundry congregation are not fighting alone they belong to the reconciling ministries network or our mmm a grassroots organization of congregations and communities committed to the full inclusion of LGBTQ persons in the life and ministries of the United Methodist Church our denomination supports the civil rights of LGBT persons in the world but denies those rights righ yes the Reverend dr. Karen Oliveto is one of the leaders of our MN and pastor at glide Memorial Church in San Francisco one of the most diverse open and controversial United Methodist churches in the US every Church has to do that moral inventory whose dignity are we not honoring unfortunately the biggest one right now because it's written into the rulebook it's okay to tell a lesbian or gay person I'm not going to baptize you I'm not going to receive you into membership I'm not gonna honor your call to ministry and I'm not going to marry you that's the only group that is officially written into our book of rules the founder of the United Methodist Church John Wesley is often quoted as saying though we may not all think alike may we not all love alike the battle over gay inclusion has been going on within the church for 40 years and at the center is interpretation of Scripture the woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man neither shall a man put on a woman's garment for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord by God so cross-dressing is forbidden by God but what about homosexuality thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind why it is abomination finally my brethren be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might put on the whole armour of God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities against powers against the rulers of the darkness of this world against spiritual wickedness in high places wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and having done all to stand [Applause] stand therefore having your loins Girt about with truth and having on the breastplate of righteousness and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace above all taking the shield of faith wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked and take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit which is the word of God praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for All Saints

4 thoughts on “Gay Clergy The Falling Away

  1. MY THOUGHTS ON THE HOMOSEXUAL INDOCTRINATION HAPPENING IN TO DAYS MODERN SATANIC SYSTEM:

    In all Honesty, the lack of morality is the biggest issue here… To tell a group of impressionable young people that it’s ok, healthy, and perfectly normal to engage in homosexual acts, is the out right destruction of mankind. The more and more people encourage homosexuality the evermore closer we’ll become non-existent. I don’t care how much a mentally confused male or female becomes, or how much surgery you have performed on your flesh… it is impossible to become the opposite sex. Humans with the ability to adapt, not evolve, to their environments, can play pretend very well, to well I’m afraid… But just because you can act your opposite sex, does not make you the opposite sex. When we are kids we pretend to be animals, alien creatures, and even cartoon characters, but it is virtually impossible to become one… I believe people have the right to live the way they choose, I do. But do not force your way of living on to me, and my kids. I tolerate this sick mentally depraved form of thinking, and that has been systematically forced on to society by Satan’s Wicked System of things. His wolves in sheep clothing children who live in luxury out of public affairs could give a full pile of dung how we feel, and think on this matter… I am so sad nowadays because I have a little girl and the worse thing I could’ve done to her, was bring her into this SATANIC attack on TRUTH AND REALITY and ultimately her well-being. But with sincere prayer to the almighty Jehovah God Through his son Jesus Christ name, I have faith that the true God Jehovah will help me to protect my daughters heart and mind until he sends his son of righteousness to destroy this wicked system of wickedness…

    MY THOUGHTS ON THE ABSOLUTE DETERIORATING, MORAL DESTRUCTION I’VE WITNESSED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND ON WHAT MANKIND, AND THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TRULY NEEDS WORLD-WIDE:

    In a world completely ruled by deception, I value hard and serious facts. There are way to many people nowadays lacking (Morals, Common sense, Respect, Compassion, Spirituality, Intense Love for Family, Understanding, Modesty, Faith Trust, Responsibility, Accountability, Discernment, A Thirst for Knowledge & Truth, Hard Love, Parental Guidance, Self-Awareness, Self Control, Mental Stability, Passion, and Self-Motivation). We are all imperfect who fail to reach our true and full potential. And It only becomes more out of reach when we live in a superficial, unrealistic, And a morally decreasing civilization. The vital function all mankind needs before patience, and the willingness to compromise with one another. Is spirituality, humble-ness, modesty, long-suffering, endurance, discernment, proper reasoning, a spiritual moral compass, realistic expectations, contentment, and spiritual discipline. The focus the modern day civilization is striving for, are the unfortunate, fundamental reason, to their dysfunctional society. The extreme heavy baggage that comes from anxiety, depression, low-self-esteem, infatuation with being independent, And love of the things we cannot afford, nor take with us to the grave, has spiritually, and morally crippled us beyond human repair. Mankind will continue to scientifically try to validate their research, with honest, and unshakable beliefs, or truths. And will in turn, force it on to every civilization, as beneficial to mankind as a whole. The broad spectrum of researchers, and researching, mankind can diligently, And honestly perform, could never fixed the immensely, profound damaged we have brought upon ourselves as a whole. Our sad, and pitiful condition, is irreversible, totally out of mankind's power to possibly fix. We not only need the only True GOD Jehovah in our everyday lives', but we also need each other. We were not, and are not made, to operate independently from those fundamental, and vital needs, to ensure our continuation, And everlasting survival. The Only True GOD Jehovah, will set this indescribable debacle straight once and for ALL!!!

    MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT MANKIND AND THE ENTIRE SYSTEM HAS BECOME SO FAR:

    America, in my opinion, and from what I can see, is the heart, and root to modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. The youngest, and yet the most hated, immoral, and upside down society to have ever been born. Maybe at a certain point in time, America seemed like the most stable and freest country to ever come in to existence. But not anymore. Freedom is only properly exercised when it is guided by Truth, not feelings, nor opinions. I believe the correct Christian spiritual discipline, and a spiritual moral compass is the most fundamental core, and the structural foundation to what's proper and TRUE. But living in (Babylon The Great – The World Empire Of False Religions), can sure make it even harder to discern reality from fiction, Facts from Lies, Right from wrong, freedom from slavery, and freedom of choice, from mind-control. What's the hardest thing to accept in life? I believe, the hardest thing to accept in life is the truth. But it only becomes hard when it conflicts with what an individual held in their hearts and minds as truth throughout their lives’. Then the biggest challenge upon accepting that new found truth as fact. Will be consciously while willingly wanting to actually make accurate personal changes in their spiritual, mental, and physical conduct. I myself am a 80s baby. So I had the fine advantages that came with living in a non-digitized society. Highly recommended in my opinion. Unfortunately today, we’ve been rather forced into having these particular devices embedded into our lives; and it absolutely sickens me. To make one thing clear. I do not have any hatred towards Lifeless objects, but we bring these objects to life, in a samurai wielding a sword kind of way. So, it’s the user who's to blame for the misuse of such power. But when its forced on to you by the giver of such power, then regulations must be placed on such use of power. Sort of like this funny, yet truthful saying I heard once. “A gift is only a good thing when the giver has given thought to that gift, but when that gift that the giver gives; gives grief, then that gift should give the giver regrets”.

    The moral to the story is that, we’ve been forced into a particular lifestyle that completely pushes us into a disruptive, dissociative disorder with one another. Individuals, especially younger ones, don’t fully understand the interactions we cherished with one another not so long ago. And we all as a whole today, has grown further away from each other. In Understanding, Truth and Reality, Family Structures, Proper Education, and just being content in living normally. The children my generation has, are going to experience the most hated, unrealistic, and delusional society the world has ever seen. This is the price all people pay when we want to live independent, keep the Only True GOD Jehovah out of our lives; and embrace satanic ideologies. MAY GOD HELP US ALL WITH WHAT THIS SYSTEM IS DESTINED TO WITNESS.

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