Dr. Douglas Hamp – Haunted Theology -How the Ghost of Marcion Haunts the Modern Church (Edited)



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We have a haunted theology today – it is inhabited by a spirit of a 2nd century heretic who continues to exert influence over how some Christians read their Bible.

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  1. A good teaching but j/Sus is the head of the Abomination christian church…Start dicerning the real Messiah YAHUSHA ( a y'israelite)not this christian fraud j/man..All praise to ABBA FATHER ❤️

  2. Amein, brother, we war not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities and whatnot (MLV) My Loose Version. The MLV is a mix of KJV, NIV, catholic and baptist teachings, maybe some Shakespeare or Mark Twain, … oh, and the MLV doesn't have chapter and verse, and if it has a book reference it's often the wrong one

  3. Marcion was not the initial culprit behind removing Torah from believers in Yeshua. Read the works of Justin Martyr. Justin taught some similar views concerning the Torah. Marcion took an already budding belief and took it to new heretical heights.

  4. WoW!! I have been trying to spread the word on Marcion's infiltration and anti-semitic theology that has plagued the 'church' for over 1900 years. THIS is an excellent teaching. SO excited to FIND your work Dr. Doug Hamp! I submitted to Torah observancy in 2016 after nearly 7 years of being challenged and challenging the Father in HOW to Love him with all my heart, all my soul, all my strength. So excited to GRow with you!!

  5. As always Dr Hamp, you and your teaching are absolutely fantastic x thank you for presenting the truth and not tickling our ears in your inspired, knowledgeable and insightful way x God, El Shaddai is my Heavenly Father and such; as a parent, gives us consistency, continuity, unconditional love and boundaries, and as a parent of more than one would shepherd his family to be as one x thank you Dougie, you are an amazing and God-sent man xx

  6. We need more godly men like you, Doug, that dedicate their lives in studying, researching and imparting, rightly dividing the Word and understanding "complicated" Rav Shaul…we thank Yeshua for this brilliant gift of teaching coupled with humility HE has placed in you….We are supporting you not only in word but in deed (tithes and/or offerings)…

  7. I’m not against Paul for anything you covered here. My issue with Paul is 1 Corinthians 8. He told people it was ok to do something that is strictly forbidden, so everything else Paul says is now null and void. I wrestled for many years with that, but at the end of the day YHVH is my God and Yahshua is my king so I must listen to them above everyone else. Idolatry is forbidden in any way shape or form.

  8. hey Doug how do you explain Mathew 5:19 .
    so God is saying that even if we dnt obey HIS commandments , some will make it in the kingdom but they will the" least in the kingdom "
    is it bad to be the least in heaven but not in hell?
    or it's meaning sth else coz my interpretation is in contradiction with all other verses ( those that don't keep the instructions of Lord shall not get to the tree of life Rev 22)
    thanks

  9. Joseph Prince admitted that it wasn't a voice that was a witness of the Spirit, but it was the voice of the Lord and he listened to it anyway? That is confusion. I would've never listened to him again after that. He just blatantly told on himself that he doesn't know the Lord.

    Jesus made it clear that Holy Spirit would glorify and testify about HIM…there is no room for 2 different voices.

    I cannot with these people man, I'm done.

    (Continuing watching)

  10. Confusion here. Is there a difference between the Law of Moses and the Law of Christ? Absolutely. Moses' law was pretty much fleshly. Don't kill. Don't commit adultery. Jesus' law is spiritual. Don't hate, because that's the same as killing. Don't look at a woman because that's the same as adultery. Moses' laws were externally expressed. Jesus was all about the internal. Jesus' law, the law of Christ, is far more stringent. Fortunately he promised that the Holy Spirit would do all the work. It's called grace. Did we receive instruction not to let anyone judge us over feast days and sabbaths? Yes. Most Christians still live in the Old Testament law and that's not enough. We have to pick up our cross and die to our fleshly self in the New Testament. Is it worth it? YES because God is now our heavenly father! Our abba.

  11. Doug , This is such an important teaching, I have posted before here on this study, but wanted to also point out that many people only use the KJV companion bible, as I also have for many years. It has been a great study tool. I wanted to point out that a lot of the commentary is from Bullinger and he also was influenced by this theology. check out
    THE DISPENSATIONAL POSITION OF

    JOHN'S GOSPEL; or,

    THE FIG, THE OLIVE, AND THE VINE

    BY DR. BULLINGER, JULY, 1899
    Some quotes are as follows; So that while the truths of John's Gospel may be found in the Epistles, the special

    church-truths are not found in John.

    When the Church has been removed, Yahweh's dealings on the earth will be with

    Jew and Gentile as such.

    Yahweh will be again dealing with His people Israel, and the godly remnant will

    need special Scriptures for that time. The Law, with the "Song of Moses " (Deut.32), will

    tell them of Yahweh's goodness and of Israel's rebellion . We thus learn the true dispensational position of the gospel of John, and have the

    key to its teaching: and if we rightly divide it we shall not use the truth of John 15 to upset

    the truth of Romans 8 as to our own present standing in Christ: nor set those two chapters

    in opposition, and then seek to explain away the difficulty which we have ourselves

    created through failing to rightly divide the word of Truth.

    Doug please Keep up the good works of YHVH's truth and speaking out on these key false man made theology teachings.

  12. The Logos, the Word, The Torah was nailed to the cross. Yeshua was nailed to the cross. He died. AND HE WAS RESURRECTED AND SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. Word, Torah,Yeshua, Logos, The law. Not one jot or tittle shall pass away,till… Shall the branch separate from the root. Good job The law is good it protects me.

  13. The laws were not abolished. We are still to follow them. The Ten Commandments are still valid. Obey them. But along with those THE SON BROUGHT US A FEW MORE IN THE NEW COVENANT. THE GOLDEN RULE. TREAT PEOPLE THEY WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. WE NO LONGER HAVE TO SACRIFICE ANY ANIMALS BECASE. THE SON WAS THE MOST PERFECT LAMB. HIS SACRIFE ONLY HAD TO BE DONE ONCE. WE ARE FREE BY THE LAMB'S SACRIFICE FOR US. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE ANY MORE. THE SON ALSO SAID LIVE OTHER AS YHE LIVES YOU. NO QUALIFICATIONS. NOR DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN. ANYONE OR ANYTHING. LOVE ALL. THERE'S ONE FORGIVE EVERYONE FOR THE WRONG EITHER YOU PRECEIVE THAT WAS DONE OR WHAT ACTUALLY DONE. NO MATTER. FORGIVE!!! AS HE FORGIVES US. HIW CAME WE EXPECT IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO IT?

  14. Thank you for what I came to by reading the Bible front to back. My question is, Jesus said if someone says he's in the desert, don't believe them. Yet Paul went to the desert for instruction. Raises a big flag for me. I'm struggling with his letters, especially because nobody knows what he is letters responded as far as questions.

  15. WHY keep the Sabbath day? What is the object of the Sabbath? Who made it? When was it made, and for whom? Which day is the true Sabbath? Many keep the first day of the week, or Sunday. By what Bible authority have they for this? Some keep the seventh day, or Saturday. What Scripture have they for that? Here are the facts about both days, as plainly stated in the Word of God:

    60 Bible Facts on the
    Seventh day of the Week
    1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, God rested on the seventh day. Genesis 2:1-3.
    2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.

    3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.

    4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. Genesis 2:3.

    5. He sanctified the seventh day. Exodus 20:11.

    6. He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 2:1-3.

    7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.

    8. Jesus says it was made for man, that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jew. Mark 2:27.

    9. Not only is the Sabbath made for man, but Jesus said that He was Lord of the Sabbath. Mark 2:28.

    10. It is a memorial of creation. Exodus 20:11; 31:17. Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.

    11. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.

    12. It is not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.

    13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day.

    14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all through the patriarchal age. Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10,12; 29:27,28, etc.

    15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. Exodus 16:4,23-29.

    16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. Exodus 20:1-17. Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?

    17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. Deuteronomy 4:12,13.

    18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.

    19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. Deuteronomy 5:22.

    20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. Deuteronomy 10:1-5.

    21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. Exodus 34:21.

    22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. Ezekiel 20:12,13.

    23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from the false gods. Ezekiel 20:20.

    24. God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath. Jeremiah 17:24,25.

    25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. Nehemiah 13:18.

    26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. Jeremiah 17:27.

    27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. Isaiah 56:6,7.

    28. This is in the prophecy which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. See Isaiah 56.

    29. God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. Isaiah 56:2.

    30. The Lord requires us to call it "honourable." Isaiah 58:13 Beware, you who take delight in calling it the "old Jewish Sabbath," "a yoke of bondage," etc.

    31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down "many generations," it is to be restored in the last days. Isaiah 58:12,13.

    32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.

    33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. Luke 4:16; John 15:10. Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?

    34. The seventh day is the Lord's day. See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.

    35. Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her. 1 Peter 3:6.

    36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. Mark 2:23-28.

    37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. Matthew 12:1-13.

    38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was "lawful." Matthew 12:12.

    39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. Matthew 24:20.

    40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. Luke 23:56.

    41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it "the sabbath day." Acts 13:14.

    42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "sabbath day" in A.D. 45. Acts 13:27. Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?

    43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "sabbath day." Acts 13:44.

    44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. Acts 13:42.

    45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 49, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "sabbath day." Acts 15:21.

    46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. Acts 16:13.

    47. Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. Acts 17:2,3.

    48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. Acts 17:2,3.

    49. The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. See Acts 13:14,44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4,11.

    50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.

    51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?

    52. But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. "Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?

    53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the sabbath day."

    54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.

    55. God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use the seventh day for common labor?

    56. No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of the kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?

    57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day?

    58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. Isaiah 66:22,23.

    59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. See Exodus 20. When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." Matthew 5:17.

    60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

    40 Bible Facts on the
    First Day of the Week
    1. The very first thing recorded in the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. Genesis 1:1-5. This was done by the Creator Himself. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?
    2. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. Exodus 20:8-11. Is it wrong to obey God?

    3. None of the patriarchs kept it.

    4. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.

    5. By the express command of God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.

    6. God Himself calls it a "working" day. Ezekiel 46:1.

    7. God did not rest upon it.

    8. He never blessed it.

    9. Christ did not rest upon it.

    10. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence, He did many a hard day's work on Sunday.

    11. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.

    12. The apostles never rested upon it.

    13. Christ never blessed it.

    14. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.

    15. It has never been sanctified.

    16. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. "Where no law is, there is no transgression." Romans 4:15. See also 1 John 3:4.

    17. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.

    18. No penalty is provided for its violation.

    19. No blessing is promised for its observance.

    20. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?

    21. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.

    22. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.

    23. It is never called the Lord's day.

    24. It is never called even a rest day.

  16. One of the most important corrections ever made. The protestants went less than half way. Doug is simply carrying on their great struggle, with more information and with hindsight. This is no-brainer stuff if, like me, you were outside the Marcionist organizations that have trapped almost all believers. I was disturbed that my brothers and sisters never held me to anything the Saviour told us to do. Did they really believe His words? No, they didn't.

  17. We do everything we can to find our way back to heaven, so that Gods grace who is in Christ can fill in the rest, because we all fall short of the glory of God. To understand the keys of heaven, its where heaven and earth meet in the bible. So to understand what Christs mission was, we read what it was he had to do, and who from heaven he spoke with. If Christ were to remove the old ways, he would have avoided the temple, having no reason to go there. But instead Christ came to restore the temple, showing this with what he said in the temple with what God receives, and what kings receive. In other words, the statutes were lost with what was done inside the temple. There being no difference being alive or dead, when we start, except with priests, the connection with the dead, is for life. Was it better to not flood the world, so that Noah and his family could die, and the things of God lost forever? Or that most all should die, and be saved afterward? The Jews did not want to do this, and the king did not, so they lost their temple, so that all should die, because there being some to do what apostle Paul said to do with the dead.

  18. Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept UNDER THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

    Gal 3:24 Wherefore the LAW was our schoolmaster to bring us UNTO Christ, that we might be justified by FAITH.

    Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER under a schoolmaster(law).

  19. In the age of "hypergrace" theology and "Once Saved Always Saved", this message is more important than EVER. I put the original message up on my channel before I saw that you have an edited version. I wanted to ask your permission before uploading but the comments section wasn't loading on the original video – now I understand why! May I keep the original message on my channel, or put up the edited version (I WILL NOT MONETIZE) or would you prefer me to put this link (for the edited version) into a playlist? If you want your video put in a playlist I will do that and delete the video on my channel. I just want to be as respectful as possible. Much love to you in Christ – Veruka

  20. Doug, I want to thank you for a great STUDY on the history of the early doctrinal errors and why these things are so widely accepted and taught to day, and sadly believed today by many people who do not take the time to test themselves or their teachers. I pray that others who watch this teaching will use it in there own local bible studies and teach others about this deadly deception that is spreading like wild fire within the churches today. It is the same lie that was from the beginning, God did not really mean what he said!
    Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 
    Joh 14:16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 
    Joh 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 
    Joh 14:18  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 
    Joh 14:19  Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 
    Joh 14:20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 
    Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 
    Joh 14:22  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 
    Joh 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 
    Joh 14:24  He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 
    Joh 14:25  These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 
    Joh 14:26  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 
    Joh 14:27  Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 
    Joh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. 
    Joh 14:29  And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe. 
    Joh 14:30  Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 
    Joh 14:31  But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. 

    Be strong people and do not deny the foundation of our faith. Amen.

  21. Praying for you Doug, you teach excellent sermons of GODS truth. I know you get lots of flack and many come against anyone promoting keeping the law once saved. We are clearly saved by Gods Grace through our faith in Jesus Christ. Once saved, Yeshua said if you love me, keep MY commandments. ❤️

  22. Here's the New Covenant – does not seem God is doing away with HIS laws, in fact the opposite! Read the New Covenant then ask yourself again, did God do away with the Law? JEREMIAH 31:31-34 – 31“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. 33“But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34“They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.” We Gentiles are grafted into this New Covenant just like the House of Judah and the House of Israel, into one new man. Not Jew or gentile, not one law for the Jews and one for the Gentiles, one law – one new man in our LORD Jesus Christ – Praise GOD! ❤️

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